On this episode of After America, Zoe Daniel MP, Independent Member for Goldstein and former foreign correspondent, joins Dr Emma Shortis to talk about the incoming Trump administration, Australia’s relationships with the United States and China, and the role of independent politicians in Australian defence and foreign policy-making.
This discussion was recorded on Thursday 28 November and things may have changed since recording.
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Guest: The Hon Zoe Daniel MP, Independent Member for Goldstein // @zoedaniel
Host: Emma Shortis, Director of International & Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // @EmmaShortis
Show notes:
Greetings from Trumpland: How an unprecedented presidency changed everything by Zoe Daniel and Roscoe Whalan (March 2021)
Theme music: Blue Dot Sessions



My oma would read me Aesop’s fables as a child because she believed stories should always teach you something. And that something was always easier to learn through the lessons of someone else.