On this episode of Follow the Money, Allan Behm joins Ebony Bennett to discuss the Trump administration’s decision to review the AUKUS submarine deal, why Australia doesn’t need American Virginia-class boats anyway, and why the Australian and American governments have shared interests but not shared values.
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Guest: Allan Behm, Senior Advisor in International & Security Affairs, the Australia Institute
Host: Ebony Bennett, Deputy Director, the Australia Institute // @ebonybennett
Show notes:
AUKUS is a disaster for Australia. Trump has given us an out – let’s take it by Emma Shortis, The Sydney Morning Herald (June 2025)





